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No Man's Sky Jul 17, 2018 16:22:52 GMT

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Post by Jägerbomber on Jul 17, 2018 16:22:52 GMT

Finally. Hopefully we'll get a detail video by next week.

Kind of underwhelmed visually (not much of any upgrade there), but it depends on what you can do, if they've added stuff that hopefully is a lot, but I still fear that it might not be that much. And I hope they fixed planets with water and caves that are too shallow for spawning the creatures it's supposed to.

Not sure if I saw rivers for sure, but I can't tell. If they are there, looks like it might kind of just be done similar to caves (though luckily not looking like caves), but no enhancements to how hills our mountains look. We now have swimming, but the only enhancement to underwater is bubbles coming off your character and nothing else, other than underwater facilities? Still not particularly water-like.

The new larger (or I guess actually medium-sized) in-space ships are intriguing, but I'm making myself keep my expectations in check relative to what previous ones have had. (That seems like kind of a strange place for a window, though. lol)

And apparently you can be a Gek, maybe? Surprised not the other species or whatever, idk. Also, emotes (and sitting). Overall, it's hard to tell what's player-made colonies anywhere(which supposedly is supposed to happen, but we're not sure), or more interesting facilities to visit. But it actually seems to me like every new building shown was player-built, including underwater.

(The crashed freighters, one of the larger structures seen here which actually looks like a crashed satellite, but it's just a freighter, I bet won't be that hugely more interesting than the little things they have now, but I can hope.)

Ringed planets. And what was with marching along behind Sentinals? That was kind of intriguing, but I don't know how deep that will actually be.

I'm curious if multiple-biomes per planet is actually going to be a thing, which was rumored, but idk.

Still no "forests" either?....

Oh yeah, and you teleport into your ship now.

I kind of liked hoping in an out... even if you ended up leaving it on the top of a cliff or spire.

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No Man's Sky Jul 17, 2018 17:00:37 GMT

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Post by Jägerbomber on Jul 17, 2018 17:00:37 GMT

Ok, here's some more details.

blog.us.playstation.com/2018/07/17/no-mans-sky-next-is-a-massive-free-update-launching-july-24-on-ps4/

Multiplayer

Team up a small team of friends and explore the universe together, or be joined by random travellers.
You can help friends to stay alive, or prey on others to survive.
Tiny shelters or complex colonies that you build as a team are shared for all players.
Fight as a pirate or a wingman in epic space battles with friends and enemies.
Race exocraft across weird alien terrains, creating race tracks and trails to share online.
Character customisation allows you to personalise your appearance.

Visual Overhaul

The game is fully playable in third or first person, both on-foot and in ship.
Planetary rings and improved space visuals make space more beautiful than ever.
Dramatically improved planetary terrain generation, ground textures, water and clouds bring the environment to life.
Significantly more detail added to ships, NPCs and buildings.

(Hardly noticeable, except for the rings....)

Unlimited Base Building

Bases can now be built anywhere on any planet.
Dramatically increased base building complexity and size limits.
Hundreds of new base parts.
Own multiple bases. (How about storage?... but especially suit storage lol.)

Command Freighters

Assemble and upgrade a fleet of frigates and command them from the bridge of your freighter.
Send your fleet out to into the universe, or deploy them to help you as you explore a specific system.
Improved freighter base building allows a truly custom capital ship.
Invite your friends aboard and take on challenging multiplayer missions from the Galactic Commision Station on your bridge.

I'm still sensing that this might not be that deep, but the sentinal march is still intriguing.

Another note of detail from Sean's tweet.

"discover a rebooted universe together"

I can't say I'd hugely mind starting over, as overall even with the massive amount of time I played, I didn't get very far because of how I play. But... they can't possibly be resetting saves?

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Post by Jägerbomber on Jul 20, 2018 16:52:16 GMT

kotaku.com/no-mans-sky-never-got-sandworms-because-people-would-ha-1827750099

Very long interview that I'm reading now:

waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/zmk4w8/we-spent-an-hour-talking-to-hello-games-about-everything-no-mans-sky

Sean: We've run these two ARGs, one in the lead up to Atlas Rising and now this one, which have been really popular—like 300,000 people playing the first one, 400,000 people playing the last one. And that's our way of communicating now with the community, or has been, right? And I used to joke when we started up that ARG [that] we ran those because we had been like banished to the astral plane? [laughs] And we could only talk to the community through like moving things on the table, or they would ask if a certain feature was in the game and we would like, kick the door or something.

Yeah. And it felt… I don't know what is a great word is but it felt maybe inappropriate to do that? And it was… I will be honest and say I think you guys are lovely, I'm sure. You guys are lovely, but I never really wanted to talk to the press. I didn't enjoy it when I had to do it. I think that was super obvious watching me doing interviews. [laughs] And I wasn't very good at. And so [not talking to the press] has been the easiest choice to make.

After the release of Next, we're going to start communicating directly with the community loads more, and we're going to start dropping weekly content, weekly community missions and rewards and stuff like that.

We've agonized over this, whether we should ever talk to the press again. [laughs] Not because the press is the problem, but I just mean talking to the larger world, right? People who aren't just our core community. It was like, "No, I feel like we owe it to people to be able to address a bunch of questions that they have, and then maybe, hopefully have the ability to talk more openly with our community." And kind of address a whole bunch of questions that people have.

Right now, I think a whole bunch of people have questions about No Man's Sky Next, and what's in it, and functionality, and they're making up their minds about whether to buy it or not and jump back in. And I want to be able to talk freely with them. I do think we're just ripping off a band-aid, where we talk to the press like right now, and we've got to get that out of the way. And then I don't think you're going to hear from me loads.

I was saying before, I don't think it's something that we need to do. I don't think it's something that we're particularly good at doing.

Interviewer: So you mention new functionality in Next. Should people go into it thinking there might be something different about the basic loop of the game, or is it an extension of that same sort of cycle of resource gathering, checking out a planet, and moving on to a new one? I think about someone like Patrick specifically, who did not have the same [very positive] relationship with No Man's Sky that I did partially because of that resource loop, partially because he needed to go get fuel every time he took off with the ship.

End summary of Sean's response: So the core, normal game is something [where] there are a lot of people who already really enjoy that side of the game, and that hasn't changed. But there are other ways to play it.

I am not… How can I put this? In the olden days, I would probably would have been trying to convince Patrick to buy the game and that it was brilliant, and now I'm like… I don't care!

Interviewer: The weeks and months after the original launch, one of the things the more hostile elements of the community did was comb through every interview, every appearance, every piece of text or audio and squaring that with the game that was out there. There was this whole community of people scouring through things.

I'm curious, given that experience and response from certain segments of the community, how did that play into how you thought about talking about the game, what you say about the game, how liberally you are speaking about the game? And related to that, if you can take us inside the feeling of the studio in those weeks and months afterwards, where there was like a very hostile community calling Hello Games liars and thieves, all sorts of really escalated rhetoric.

Sean: Yeah, I mean, there's still plenty of people who will say that. The reality is... a perspective that I've gained, I think, and gained in this first few months is [pause] the Internet is often really, really good at figuring out when someone's made a mistake, right? Or messed up in some way, done something that they would regret. [But] I don't necessarily think they're the best at deciding what appropriate action is or exact proportional reaction to take.

it was naive to think that we could talk about features that were in development.

I look back on those interviews and they are vague and rambling, kind of like this. [laughs] That's my natural way of talking. I can feel that I'm already rambling. This is why I shouldn't talk to anyone. [laughs]

We would talk to press, we would talk to people like yourselves at E3 or whatever, and they'd be like "Oh, it's so nice to sit down with developers and just chat about things and chat about games in general." And the communities react really well to it! "Sean's cool! He just talks about games, seems like a normal person. It's so nice that it's not those scripted PR." And you guys would be like "Why don't publishers just have this?" And I'm like "Yeah, I don't know!" Now? I 100 percent get it. I've got some advice for past Sean.

Sean makes some interesting comments kind of along the lines of the people who were blaming Sony specifically for overhyping it. Yes, Hello Game's trailer was misleading (unintentionally, but still), but you know who did the most overhyping? The internet/general community.... They do that too much.

The situation was an interesting one, but the reality is, the moment we stepped on stage at E3, and the moment we just showed at VGX [the Spike Video Game Awards] and got the kind of reaction that we did, and a whole bunch of stuff was set in motion, I think. It's easy to look back on it now and go—it was almost inevitable about how things would play out. The moment you got that excited about the game and the spotlight that we were under and how far out we were from release, there was just a whole load of factors that came into play.

After we launched, it was actually someone that I really respect who was high up at Valve said to me, "You know, the things that you got right—in terms of this tiny team making this huge game, and it being innovative, which is a thing not very many games are, and it being really ambitious technically, and doing stuff that no one had done before—those things are really hard, and they're really hard to learn, and you know very few can do them." And then they were like, "The things that you messed up are things that are just really easy to learn. And a lot of them are kind of things that, if I'm honest, they're not largely in our control, right?”

But Sean continues to say it wasn't really their own fault. That's what frustrates me. Because, yes, the internet very much overhypes and overchastises things to a huge degree. But who triggered it?

If you watch that the Next video, you'll see that there is much bigger draw distances. That normally wouldn't be possible because that geometry just wouldn't exist. Normally your draw distance is what it is and you can't really change it that easily because you're hiding stuff. Our worlds have just kind of gotten bigger because of that, our vistas. We have a new cloud system, which people seem really excited about, and a new water system that makes water look much better.

Ok, the only one interesting/unknown here is the draw distance, but to creatures now spawn quicker and farther away than before? Because we saw none of it in the trailer. And the other ones he lists are extremely lackluster. I wouldn't even begin to mention that the water looks better than it did previously from this trailer.

I think this time around it's incremental improvements, but I think our creatures are much more interesting and have better behaviors.

It's subtle stuff. It's not the core of the game or anything like that, but there are just these moments. When you have creatures that flock together or behave a bit more as birds

We've built out what you can do with freighters. You can build up, basically, a fleet or an armada of like up to 50 frigates that ride along beside your freighter, and you can send them off on missions, a little bit like you would assassins in Assassins Creed.

if you warp out out after them, you can follow along with them. Sometimes, they will call you with major decisions. They will be sending back reports. They can get destroyed, or they can come back damaged. And you can fly over to them, land on them, you can walk around inside them and repair them.

Ok, that's rather cool, but I'm sure very very expensive, so..... I bet still very much out of my reach for a long time.

That's okay because actually the average play time is really high on No Man's Sky. But how many people just never get to experience that, and that would have been a cool thing for them? So now, when you start the game, within the first hour or so, you're taught base building and actually given the opportunity to just focus on that if you want. And then, around hours six or seven, you get introduced to freighters and you get given your freighter. You're seeing that much earlier on. We brought forward vehicles and things like that.

We'll see I guess. But early, or even completely maxed out suit storage is one of my 2 biggest complaints.

This time around, we've thought a bit more about the person who has never played the game before or just wants to start a fresh save. They can't even remember two years ago when they picked it up at launch. And we're like "Cool, you'll have a, hopefully, much nicer experience, and you'll get to see some of these things earlier."

With Next, I think there's a moment reasonably early on, within the first 10 or 15 hours, where I hope the player feels overwhelmed by the amount of stuff that there is to do. They're like, "I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to be doing base building right now, or whether I'm supposed to be building up my fleet that I just started, or whether I'm supposed to be doing this story, or whether I'm supposed to be hiring NPCs or whatever." If people feel overwhelmed like that, it's a lovely complaint to get about No Man's Sky, if they're overwhelmed by the amount of stuff they can do. You saw that in comments a bunch about like Atlas Rises when it came out. We that to be more true now.

Worrying. And I have no idea how this is going to work out for those who already play and are in the early-middle. Because things ended up getting missed or were very buggy for a long while with the previous update.

People can choose to jump into other players' games, and there are shortcuts, to do that. We want to bring people together.

Also, PVP isn't the focus of the game, it's it's not very… like, this sounds bad but it's purposeful, it’s not very rewarding. That was a very conscious decision. If you were doing that, you're not having necessarily a super exciting time. It actually started with no PVP in, and it felt weird to have a ship and not be able to shoot your friend or whatever, or have a gun and not be able to shoot them. And also, it makes the universe feel more real. People are worried about it! You're sitting there. Am I just going to get shot by another human? You can already can get shot by pirates, but it's just a nice feeling to thinking that guy who's attacking me might be a real person. That's a neat moment.

We will see. I'm interested in seeing PvP happen, but I fear hackers/modders warping to people's exactly locations at any time? That could be very bad if possible.

When you go to the space station, there's this new marketplace, which makes buying ships and upgrades a lot more clear, and it's much more open and there's a lot of NPCs around.

just to be super clear, when you're playing No Man's Sky, this is not an MMO. You are not meeting hundreds of people. There's four people on the cover of the box. It's teams of four that you gather up in. Most of the time, if you play multiplayer at all, you will be playing with your three other friends—in a crew, join together and you play together. That's where it makes the most sense. You're playing, building a base, all that kind of stuff. You are not all congregating in the one place, and having some sort of mass experience.

You will occasionally come across other people, and that will more than likely really happen when somebody teleports to your base, or they choose to jump into a random player's game and meet up in that way. They purposely choose, "I want to meet someone random."

Wait, wtf??.....

Interviewer: But there are hooks for that in the game.

Sean: Yeah. Otherwise, it just doesn't happen. But we are doing community events. Post launch, we're going gonna start doing weekly updates with content and community missions and things like that. But that's more supporting something that you've probably seen the community already doing. There's a website that we're launching that will show people where hubs and factions are, and how much they've explored the game and stuff like that. That's mainly if you are interested in that side of the game. We're supporting that loads more. But not through, you know, some sort of MMO or something like that. Multiplayer is really about you and your buddies playing, or as you're just playing normally, ambiently, occasionally jumping into a game.

When we started Hello Games, there were only four of us, and we had this conversation that was like "We don't have a front man. We don't really have anyone that likes doing that. Maybe we should have a front man and get in front of that." And I remember saying to the other guys, "Maybe I could do it?" And everyone laughed. [laughs] They were like "It would be Dave [Ream, co-founder of Hello Games] if it was anyone." I was like, "Oh, I didn't know that about myself but okay, I'm cool with that." [laughs]

Then it just sort of has weirdly happened, and the team watching that happen has been like, "We want no part of this." The team watching what I've gone through around launch and stuff like that, whatever chance we ever had of interviewing any of the rest of the team, that's gone. They are like, "Why are you even talking to the press right now? Why are you even putting yourself through that?" We had a discussion, where we're like "Maybe someone else wants to do it his time?" And everyone's like "No, I'm not touching it!" [laughs]

Now we're about 25? [people] And we're crazy small for doing Xbox, adding multiplayer, third-person locomotion, all of that kind of thing. Big problems! And adding those into a big, broad game. That's that thing that I see.

I think we did [mess up] coming up the original launch. I hope people don't get too mad at us about that because I know lots people get mad about that. Hopefully people can understand, we were under just ridiculous pressure, as in from the fans, from external forces, from running out of money. We just had deadlines that we couldn't move. We used to have conversations: "What would you give right now just for an extra day? What would you give for an extra week?" We would have done anything, and we were really invested in the game. We'd worked for years. That is super regrettable. We will never put ourselves in that position again.

It's a luxury that we have that the game's been successful, and we're in a much better position and we're much smarter now. Much more stable. We have a bit more power in things, due to the success No Man's Sky that [helps us to] avoid that. But it is a hard problem to solve, and I don't think we have solved it yet. But every update we've done has been better managed than the last one, and that was one of our big things coming out of launch. We need to do this better because this team—it's a small team. They are super talented, and if they all left, if we all left, then Hello Games is nothing. That's that's all we have. That is the company.

Interviewer: Had you done something as simple as launched in early access even under the tagline and changed nothing else, do you think that would have been useful?

Sean: I think I saw Charlie Brooker, who I really respect and played the game a lot and liked it, saying that if it had come from nowhere, he felt like it would have been the toast of the town, or whatever. No one had heard of it before, it was this weird crazy game. And I think there's probably some truth to that.

So I look back on the press and interviews and stuff we shared way too much information. We shared it too early. We didn't need to do that. But do I look at No Man's Sky and think "Oh, it was early access or something like that?" I don't actually think so.

When we talked to the press, we always painted it as this weird experience. We painted it as being a little bit lonely. We definitely aligned ourselves towards something like 2001: A Space Odyssey, rather than like Star Wars. And it was this kind of meditative, relaxing game. And when we released, that was a lot of the reaction that was positive that we got was “Yeah, that's what it is and that's kind of what I'm after and that really resonates with me, and as a sci-fi fan, that really delivers on that.” And I'm super, super proud of being able to deliver that. I'm super proud of the team doing that. There's this tiny team and they pull that off, and they pulled off something which had been the vision like day one.

He's not wrong and that's what he said, but that basic style of experience was not what most people were hoping for from a game that looked this epic and revolutionary... that was also on Sony's main stage. Rather than some game that appeared out of nowhere from the background that people were playing. But, if it hadn't gotten the sales from the very public explosion, then I doubt we'd still be talking about it today... at all. at the rate its developments gone.

"Oh, I love the game" or "I want to love the game, but I don't like your inventory system or I don't like the way launch fuel works or I want a creative mode. I want base building! Or I want this other thing from this game. I want this way for the discoveries page to work or whatever." It's like, oh my god, that sounds fine. I can do that! [laughs]

He still won't say that he thinks it should have been "Early Access", even when bringing up the question multiple times.

Interviewer: Do you think that statement you just made though is the sort of thing that maybe gets people's hopes up? I think, as a creator, I completely sympathize with the ambition: you want to make the “perfect game” for someone, you want to be able to fulfill their sci-fi fantasy. And, you know, I'm excited about Next , but isn't it statements like that—”Do you want to be a space pirate? Do you want to command freighters?”— I know those are specific features that you've already talked about regarding Next , but where people's ears will perk up and say, "Well, l maybe this won't be the lonely thing for me this time, maybe the action will feel more like Elite: Dangerous or like Call of Duty ," or whatever the thing is that they will fill in the gap for?

Sean: I think so, I totally take your point and you're probably right. I should never talk to the press! [laughs]

Interviewer: I would rather stay that now and let you respond to it, because two weeks from now, someone will point to this interview and say "He did it again!"

Sean: Maybe they will. But I think, in all honesty, what the problem was was us pointing to features. Saying "Hey, look at this cool thing" and then us, through the course of development, those things changing, or us not delivering on them. I think that's a really different situation.

But what I'm talking about specifically is people who see the potential in the game, and then us listening to them and realizing that potential for some more people each time we do an update. And it's really simple, because for the vast majority of them, that's just a free update. That's a really simple thing.

in one of the early videos, we show this giant kind of sandworm, and it turned out, as we went through development, that wasn't very fun.

I don't know if this is obvious to everyone else. Maybe it should have been. But people would hate them within the game. They would be totally overpowered to the player. It would just come from nowhere, and it just wasn't very fun. And it didn't make sense within the scale of the game. We had a whole bunch of models for these snake-like creatures, and they ended up as a thing that we moved into the sky, and they fly around. There's enormous worms, so you've still got the spectacle and stuff like that.

I think, done well, the game should still really have stuff like that....

The bingo card of all the things the Internet can do. It ticked all of them. We did them all. It got as bad as it can get. And I still really love our community. And I'm still like really excited about the game, having gone through all of those kind of things. We're still working on it, and we're the happiest we've been, and the game is like that. We are those kind of people.

It's [No Man's Sky is] filled with with prettiness, which I know sounds weird to say, but there's very few games that are like just constantly pretty, and very few sci-fi games that aren't gritty. And I'm that type of person.

it's two years since we came out. It's been a year since the last update. The last fortnight, like 100,000 to 150,000 people have played No Man's Sky.

and there's something about the game that the people who love it and people who get it—and I'm specifically here talking about you Austin and not you, Patrick [laughs]—the people who get it are my type of people, generally. We have a lot in common because this project is a super personal project.

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No Man's Sky Jul 20, 2018 19:55:55 GMT

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Post by Jägerbomber on Jul 20, 2018 19:55:55 GMT

Supposedly they'll actually be giving "your first" freighter for free now.

Yes, I feel like I've played a massive amount of time, but.... I feel like this won't be done gracefully or as something that's well balanced. Woo, I got this potentially massive upgrade in the way I can play the game... for free.

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Ok, the extraction process is complete, and I have to admit, they got me for a moment.... Even though the pre-made ending was pretty much as cliche as it gets. I hope I can get the video link directly soon. (Not gameplay, just a closer for this year of the ARG, Waking Titan).

But we got a much more emotional version of the statement and apology above in the interview, direct from Sean.

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And a link to the new Galactic Atlas website, which actually started (the idea anyways) from a fan that he built for a colony of players.

I think it might've even had the same name?

galacticatlas.nomanssky.com/

It also gives hints about what these "community events" could be about. I don't know everything that's coming in the update, but it looks to me like "community objectives" at least to start might just be along the lines of completing tasks in and around pinpointed locations that can already be done in-game. Things like discovering all the animals and plants and such. (Lol, I hope they fixed the planets or moons that have water and caves to shallow to spawn their creatures). Remember when he mentioned that you can send your personal fleet of 50 freighters out to scavenge for materials and stuff? (or something like that). And he even directly mentioned that they appeared as a feature in several of the Assassin's Creed games, and I spent time with a couple myself. This stuff is highly influence by that. At least, that's very much how it looks to me.

Even if some won't give a crap about this stuff, this could be a very good way of expanding the game and actually seeing that there's a point to the rest of the universe existing, rather than having almost no connection to anywhere else at all at any given time. But they seem to really like to play things safe. I wonder how not-safe this could potentially become. Could we get to EVE levels of insanity at some point? (Which I'm looking forward to.) Or are they going to opt for being held back too much by the "safe" community, even though a Creative Mode option already exists for them. The odd thing that I found out at the previous in-game event is that Creative and Normal currently both connect to the same multiplayer. Will that actually still be the case and that's your "opt-in"? How the hell will Creative effect the economy, if one ever largely exists? (not to mention modders of course), but also, do they care about Creative Mode free-build bases showing up in Normal mode multiplayer? Yes, insanely large game universe, but still.

Oh and, zoom in closer on that Galactic Map. It's not live (and it's just a 2D image), but it's loaded with the locations and screenshots, some with descriptions, of the people who submitted them to the ARG recently, with the portal coordinates to all of them.

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Jägerbomber Administrator Posts: 15,716	No Man's Sky Jul 23, 2018 0:43:35 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jägerbomber on Jul 23, 2018 0:43:35 GMT Kind of wish they had just made Portals more accessible instead.
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Ok, the page has been found, however I don't think links to it have been made through the website yet.

www.nomanssky.com/next-update/

I'm just gonna pick out bits, though there's a lot more that are obvious or we're already known about. But I might get carried away at some point.

"While wandering the galaxy solo, continue to experience chance encounters with strange floating orbs." icon_neutral

The hell?....

"Soon after the release of No Man’s Sky NEXT, Hello Games has planned its first season of weekly content and community events."

galacticatlas.nomanssky.com/

"Bases can now be built anywhere on any planet, high in mountains or underwater."

"Hundreds of new base parts have been added to unlock more creative possibilities."

"Teleporters can now be built anywhere on the planet surface, and the teleporter menu has been reworked for ease of use."

"Base complexity and size limits have been dramatically increased."

"Players can own multiple bases, spread across regions, planets or star systems."

"Sculpt the terrain around your base with the improved terrain manipulator."

"The game is fully playable in third or first person, both on-foot and in ship."

"Ship controls in both views now allow for true low flight mode across the surface of planets."

Please let us fly through arches!!!!

"Communicate with other players using expressive gestures available from the quick menu."

"Construct an Appearance Customiser in your base or freighter to personalise your appearance."

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"Play as a Gek, Vy’keen, Korvax or Traveller / Anomaly." Ok, so... you might be able to pick between orb or visible traveler?

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"Assemble and upgrade a fleet of frigates, each specialised to excel in combat, exploration, trade, industry, or support."

"Command your frigates from the bridge of your freighter to complete real-time fleet missions."

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-You'll be able to see these ships in-game if you're in the same system as them at the time.

"Call on your fleet for assistance in space battles, or deploy them to help you explore a specific system."

"Improved freighter base building allows for a truly custom capital ship."

"All core substances and resources have been reworked and rebalanced to increase consistency and realism." rolleyes

"Planetary resources have been expanded, with unique substances and items to find and refine based on the planet’s biome and weather, as well as stellar classification."

"Deployable tech can be picked up and carried in your inventory."

"Crafting is deeper with the addition of buildable refiners. Convert raw substances into more valuable materials for constructing advanced products and base parts."

"Quickly locate terrain resources and buried products with the improved analysis visor."

"Set short-term goals by tagging the markers of points of interest."

"Pinpoint your exact location on a planet with visible latitude and longitude coordinates."

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But why must it be blue.... (still)

"The opening section of the game has been overhauled, introducing new story elements and an early taste of advanced gameplay features, as well as a new mission chain for players with bases."

"Envoys in Space Stations offer rewards and tributes to high-ranking members of their Guilds."

"Mission types have been expanded, with photography, feeding, freighter attack and defence, archaeology, and specialised hunting missions now available."

"Experience a greater sense of planetary scale with massively improved draw distance."

"Deep improvements to planetary terrain generation create more varied alien environments, featuring higher mountains and more navigable cave systems."

"Planet surfaces now look more interesting and representative from orbit."

"The universe is more diverse than ever with colour palette variety, dense forests and large trees, and abandoned and empty systems." - Skeptical....

"New dynamic tessellation enables detailed terrain height maps without sacrificing performance. Tessellation will be rolling out in parity to all platforms that can support it very soon."

Comparison slider image on website.

"Hazardous storms look more dramatic with new biome-specific particle effects."

"Significantly more detail added to ship, NPC, and building textures."

Comparison slider image of ship, but not buildings. Pretty major actually, I guess.

"Planetary rings of asteroids and improved space visuals make space more beautiful than ever."

- But how do they look any different up close compared to the asteroids that always spawn all around you?

"Explore vast oceans of visually improved bodies of water with new continental terrain shapes."

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"Dynamic volumetric clouds create more realistic planetary atmospheres. Increased quality clouds will be rolling out in parity to all platforms very soon."

"The HUD has been remixed to both improve readability and reduce intrusion on the gameplay area."

"The visual location of messages is better prioritised to help emphasise critical information."

"Quality of life improvements make the build menu and the quick menu more efficient."

"Inventory stacks can now be split for a more streamlined experience."

"Players with freighters can summon any of their personal starship fleet at any time."

"Maintenance and repair interactions have had a visual and functional overhaul. Repairs now take place ‘in-world’, and can be carried out in incremental stages."

"Players interested in salvage can repair damaged ships + Multi-Tools by gathering the right components and fixing damaged slots."

-Don't know what all that means, compared to what we have.

"Purchase all your space exploration needs in the huge new Space Station Marketplace."

"Find and excavate buried ruins with the Terrain Manipulator to unearth locked ancient treasures."

"Some creature types will herd together, grazing and fleeing from danger as a group." - I guess just a bit more so than before....

"Creatures now respond more enthusiastically to being fed, recognising you as a friend and alerting nearby creatures to the food source." - lol

"Creature movements now appear more natural and intelligent, with improved AI and entirely revamped animations."

"Sentinel behaviours and animations have been improved. Players can stand their ground in combat, or take advantage of the time between reinforcement waves to escape and find a place to avoid Drone scans and searches." - I just hope they fixed its brokenness really.

"Find Navigation Data and use it in the overhauled Signal Booster to locate planetary structures."

"Survive the threat of new hazardous flora and fauna. Be careful if you touch the eggs…" - Lol, we were right. But do caves have anything interesting finally?

"Creature voices are now more diverse, and NPC vocals have been updated to match their new set of animations."

"Ship sounds and combat audio have been improved." - I hope ships flying around is less annoying.

"The game soundtrack is expanded with several new music tracks composed by Paul Weir."

"Warping in ship is in third person" - but what about if we still want first person warping?

"Disabled base auto uploading, and added manual controls"

"Nanites no longer take up inventory slots"

"Scanning ships shows their slot count"

"Inventory full notifications now take into account cargo slots"

"Added danger icons to tentacle plants"

"Improved compass"

"Improved HUD marker icons for objects of interest"

"Improved fog and increased draw distance"

"New terrain generation system for improved navigability and more varied earth-like and alien landscapes" - ooh, did they improve cave lips for driving? Unlikely.

"Reduced situations where cave props can be spawned above ground" - does that mean regular stuff, or points of interest that are supposed to be in caves?

"Added support for extremely large biome props" icon_question

"Improved tree density" - So far have yet to really see.

"Tree size variation"

"Added empty systems, with no current inhabitants"

"Added abandoned systems, with derelict space stations"

"Increased asteroids density in space" shocked

Why??

"Added support for larger bodies of water" - excuse me.... shocked

"Character shadows for first person gameplay"

"Improved beach blending and visuals"

"Brightened cave interiors, especially at night"

What the hell is the flashlight for, then!!!!

"Improved storm effect fading as you enter buildings"

"Optimised cave biome prop performance"

"Improved vertex displacement on flags to make them wave nicer" - ooh, exciting.

"Modified frequency of wordstones, crates, underground props and damaged machinery"

"Improved building frequency"

"New underground ruins building type" - Yay!

"Improved creature pathfinding" - how about not shooting up vertical cave walls? lol

"Improved scales and maximum sizes of creatures"

"Improved sentinel drone behaviour, proximity indicator and escape gameplay" - Please, I hope so....

"Improved matching of creature body parts to their role"

"Added new armoured drone type"

"Must use the terrain editor to mine resource deposits" icon_e_surprised

What?..... icon_question

"Improved Colossus speed and fuel tanks / consumption"

"Different ship classes use different amounts of launch fuel"

"Increased variety in creature descriptions" - did it need more? or to be more vague?....

"Fancier descriptions for planetary weather conditions" -

"Changed starting Exosuit inventory size" - lol

"Increased the number of Exosuit cargo slots available to purchase" - You mean maximum?

"Increased crafted item stack size in the Exosuit to 5" -

"Climbing traversal more challenging and rewarding"

"Added ability to slide down cliffs" - icon_e_surprised

"Air resistance simulation for jetpack navigation" - icon_question

"Multi-tool manual holstering / unholstering"

"Ship weapons can be used against ground targets"

"Improved low level flight, with destruction of terrain objects with which you collide" - oh.... ok...

"Crit points on sentinel drones and quads" - k

"Combat scope module for the Multi-Tool" icon_question

"Personal forcefield module for the Multi-Tool" - icon_question

"Sentinel drones can repair quads and walkers in battle" - icon_e_surprised

Wtf?.....

"Fixed placement of off-planet markers and improved pulse drive flight towards marked destinations" -

Please, I hope so....

"Fixed a number of issues with atmospherics and water rendering on the horizon"

"Fixed and improved a number of situations for flattening terrain around buildings" icon_question

I hope.

"Fixed crashed freighters having underground treasure too low to mine down to" - ok, how about caves and water?...

"Fix for edited terrain regions repeatedly regenerating themselves unnecessarily" - ore resources?....

"Made the damaged machinery turn off the sparks and smoke effect when you have finished the interaction"

"Made numerous grass and foliage rendering optimisations"

"Optimised per-frame renderer memory usage"
"Optimised various engine components using async compute"
"Various optimisations"
"Various miscellaneous bug fixes"

Last Edit: Jul 24, 2018 17:37:49 GMT by Jägerbomber

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No Man's Sky Jul 25, 2018 14:58:43 GMT

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Post by Jägerbomber on Jul 25, 2018 14:58:43 GMT

Issues fixed on Experimental:

Fixed a crash in creature routines
Fixed a crash when multiple players put ammunition into a refiner
Fix for occasional crash when receiving mission rewards
Fix for crash when adjusting anisotropic filtering settings in the graphics options menu
Fix for potential crash in geometry streaming
Improvements to texture caching for AMD GPUs

Fixed an issue where some players still had physical nanites in their inventory that could not be spent at vendors
Granted players nanites when they dismantle their Obsolete Technology - spend nanites on new upgrades in Space Stations
Added a tutorial mission to guide players through the restoration of their old base
Fixed an issue where players were unable to build Frigate Terminals in Creative Mode
Fixed an issue where S-Class ships changed appearance
Fixed an issue where players were unable to build the Base Cache on their freighter to retrieve compensation for the loss of their freighter base

Fixed an issue where some Exosuit technology was not converted to Obsolete Technology. Please note this does not apply retroactively to save games that have already been upgraded.
Improved the mapping of old substances to new substances during the save upgrade. Please note this does not apply retroactively to save games that have already been upgraded.

Unfortunately, it seems like I'm too late for some of these. Oh well.

I hope the upload servers are working today. (And that they'll work in Experimental?) Also, the distance timer on Beacons still doesn't work. (still?)

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No Man's Sky Jul 27, 2018 5:54:41 GMT

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Post by Jägerbomber on Jul 27, 2018 5:54:41 GMT

lol. Questioning whether this is legit, but it's still funny...

www.pcgamer.com/i-found-the-most-dismal-no-mans-sky-planet-where-absolutely-no-happiness-is-allowed/

Currently still grinding on my home system at the moment, but being held back by not wanting to move forward as Discovery servers still won't stay connected....

Even when they worked previously (before the update), I wish they behaved more obviously as you think they should. Like.... Is there a reason why, even though planet counts seem to stay the same (?) most (but not all) of the planet names get reset with the big updates, apparently never to return to what the server was supposed to know their names as? System names seem to be more stable. And then there's creature discoveries which are more of a mess. Fine, only allow 1 100% creature completion reward per planet (not a big deal). But somehow now we've got planets that (still?) say they have no creatures, yet now they do - with no checklist/progress list and no completion reward. Among other messes.

I really hope those Discovery servers come back up soon. And I hope I'm not bugged alone, though it doesn't seem like it so far.

Last Edit: Jul 27, 2018 5:55:32 GMT by Jägerbomber

Jägerbomber Administrator Posts: 15,716	No Man's Sky Jul 30, 2018 18:12:35 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jägerbomber on Jul 30, 2018 18:12:35 GMT Let's see if I connect to the Discovery servers today.... I suspect not.